Wednesday, November 5, 2008

WTF California?

Are you seriously kidding me?

California voters outlawed gay marriage yesterday, but approved a ballot measure giving egg-laying chickens more rights.

Are you seriously fucking kidding me? What the fuck is up with that state?

How the hell do you go into a voting booth and say "I think we need to be nicer to chickens and give them enough room to stand up, spread their wings and turn around, but screw those fags and dykes they don't deserve the chance to love someone and be happy."

Fucking morons.

You know, I've never in my life contributed to a political campaign (a little hangover from being a reporter, and I don't like any of them enough to give them my money), but this is a fight I'd donate a couple of bucks to.

Well, I do know one thing, I don't travel that much so saying I won't go to California isn't that big a deal. But I'm going to do my best in the future to avoid buying anything that comes from the state. Who's with me? Just thinking about it, there's a California-based company selling songs for a buck a shot. Wonder what Apple would do if it started losing huge sums of cash because people stopped buying songs from iTunes?

And damnit, I really wanted a new Mac. Sorry Steve, won't be buying anything from your company for a while.



Anonymous said...

Don't take it out on Apple, they gave money to stop the ban. Boycotting California wines is a better alternative.

FoggyDew said...

Anon, I figured Apple did, they seem like the kind of company that would fight against this. But, unfortunately, in for a penny in for a pound and Apple's based in Cupertino.

I do like the idea of boycotting their wine industry. And, after Quantum of Solace comes out next week, no more movies either.

jlin said...

Don't boycott Californian products, the business entities are the wrong people to target.

Boycott the mormon church (which is based in Utah, but feels the need to mess with CA?). Mormons in CA donated 43% or $8.4 million to pass prop. 8. The church told members to do "all they can" to pass prop 8. The Mormon church is the institution invested in stopping gay marriage because of what their scripture says. They are the ideological ones, not Apple. Another example of a small religious group hijacking American politics.

Check out their website:

and enjoy your new Mac.

Anonymous said...

It wasn't just the Mormons. The Catholic church was heavily involved as well. Kind of a wacky partnership considering the Catholics thing LDS is a cult...but I guess whatever it takes to keep gay people from getting married...California should be ashamed of itself.

FoggyDew said...

jlin, true, the Mormon church was a big supporter of the effort to pass Prop 8. But, here's the question, how do I boycott a church I'm not a member of? I have no power over the folks in Provo and Salt Lake City.

The point of a boycott is to make everyone in an area feel the pain resulting from decisions made by those around them. Pain is a strong motivator.

FoggyDew said...

Anon, I agree. And, if i remember correctly, guilt is big when it comes to the Catholics.

Queers United said...

why cant one be for both? im for marriage equality and animal rights. yes on 2 and no on 8 don't have to be mutually exclusive.

FoggyDew said...

Queers, the problem is people were for both. Californians voted not only to give chickens more rights, but also to "protect" marriage. Perhaps, because divorce destroys marriages it too should be outlawed. If you're going to marry someone, you're stuck with them.

I say let's figure out the problems we have with human rights before people waste time and effort trying to wreck the California agriculture industry.

Anonymous said...

I suggest that you instead boycot companies that are affiliated with the Mormons, such as Mariott hotels, the Deseret Cattle and Citrus Ranch, the Bonneville International Corp., and the Beneficial Life Insurance Company.

Apple put money to try to defeat Proposition 8, and lost some customers by doing so. It's not fair for Proposition 8 opponents to then turn around and whack Apple because the Proposition passed.

Google also put money into trying to defeat Proposition 8.

Heck, a boycott of the Marriot hotel chain alone would get some folks' attention. There are so many other options out there, there's no reason for a supporter of gay marriage to patronize them.

FoggyDew said...

Anon, I understand what you're saying: punish the organizations that supported Prop 8. The problem with that is it won't do anything to fix the situation. They've gotten what they want. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a huge organization with fiercly devoted members, there' probably not much you or I could do to change that.

I had nothing against the people of South Africa, but sanctions and boycotts against that country's businesses and government helped change history. When you start hitting regular folks in the pocketbook, things change (see the recent presidential election).

Anonymous said...

I left the first Anon comment... and I can see the 'in for a penny...'. but I was just thinking that the wine industry probably brings in more cash to the state. Also, people usually only buy one computer as opposed to several glasses/bottles of wine. Maybe if we were to urge local stores & restaurants not to carry California wines it would reach a few more people. I can see boycotting Apple, but I already have my macs so I'm just not sure how I would go about it. And you are right, it's not just the Mormons. We should treat it like sanctioning a country because it will affect the most people. I am a heterosexual Atheist with a 'Marriage License' even though I had a civil service and am not having children - but no one seems to raise a stink about that. Go figure.

Sarah said...

I am dismayed by the hypocricy of your anger, Foggy Dew, et al. Making jabs at religious groups while stereotyping those entities as gay-hating cults... Do really you think that all Catholics and Mormons hate gays and pursue the denial of their rights? There is a freedom that does exist in our country that permits people to worship as they choose. Please attempt to refrain from judging like this because you are just as bad as anyone that you condemn for voting for the ban.

Sarah said...

And while you're boycotting California-produced products perhaps you should consider boycotting products that are produced in the other 45 states that have anti-gay marriage regulations.

That would really show 'em!